In +P it hurt my hand, so I went to regular 38 spcl. Glad to see it was noted as rating highly, and not on the list. If you are going to run a wisdom of crowds review site I think you really ought to take a note from them, because we ALL know the crowd can also be incredibly stupid, especially when hiding behind the anonymity of a keyboard. The Beretta Tomcat, though only .32, much fatter, and blowback, is a far, far superior gun. Yes it did. Texas Teens Getting Carry Licenses! At 10.2 ounces, the trim Taurus 738 is a very light pistol, and with an overall length of just 5.25 inches its easy to conceal even under light It shoots all varieties of .380 ammo Ive ever run through it. Im about to order some more. A 380 is about as wide as a 9mm. However it is about 1/2 as powerful, 1/2 the weight and velocity. For a very long time 9mm was considered the rock Oh well the TCP I had isnt top 5-it ran good for me. Shooting (And Finally Breaking) the SCCY CPX-2: http://youtu.be/YzYm_CqMZG8. Every one of these pistols are incredibly easy to conceal in your pocket. For that reason its got a little too much recoil and im not as accurate with it as i am with my heavier pistols chambered in 9mm and 40 caliber . Very very inconsistent across the board for everything they make to not be considered really bad. Basically I hate these guns because I hate these guns, and you should too because I do. This is the closest I have ever been to accusing TTAG of pandering to the highest advertising contributors (i. e. not a SINGLE Taurus gun on here? (1) Astroturfing happens, both ways. The original Ruger LCP has been perhaps the most well-known and popular .380 pocket pistol since it was first introduced in 2008. Trigger sucked. .380 pocket pistols are traditionally difficult to fire for a number of reasons: in addition to the horrid trigger pulls like we just discussed, they also suffer from being extremely snappy due to their small size. Its not a range gun, and should not be treated as such. Ill definitely be checking it out. Taurus TCP voted best value-best overall 380 was Kahr p380-MUCH more expensive. Kahr CW 380. Or the Springfield EMP (Though mine runs awesome, they are known for manufacturing problems). No problem with the SCCY at all. No warning shot, no shoot to wound. Stovepiped and double fed left and right, and Kel-Tec didnt want to lift a finger without me footing the bill for shipping. My PT 22 is surprisingly reliable. Funny mine have always worked. Ive never seen one that ran well or was anything but unpleasant to shoot, provided you can get more than one round off without a misfeed. either love or hate. Sean, I cannot find documentation of John Lott having bought reviews on Amazon. Now I feel like I have t fire the XDS 9MM again before I trust it, Really shook me up when I casually pressed the trigger and got a light clunk. Aside from the problems others have mentioned, the thing is slippery as hell. I also feel the cw380 has very minimal recoil vs other small 380s in its same size. When I hear someone put down the Pico, I know they do not shoot often. A lot of those people who diss these guns are those that run hollowpoints or high pressure rounds. Do they now have 12 round mags? And than some. Ultra smooth shooters. That would be TTAG, and a handful of others. Fan boys gotta fan boy, and critics gotta criticize. Lol, it is more than obvious that John Hope does not have a clue about the Beretta Pico. They were remarkably accurate and soft-shooting, too. Who knew a firearm could actually be worse? Also you gotta test the ammo you intend to use. Kahr P380 is the definitive pocket gun. I found that many mags for the Hellcat where not cut properly with too much play at the catch. Is it possible to find a Hellcat II that runs well, shoots well and fits well? Have you ever even shot one? The very concealable gun has a barrel length of only 2.5 inches. At my handgun review and rating site, gunsgunsguns.net, we offer star ratings on a scale of 110 for every gun featured on the site. Every gun has its limitations and knowledge goes a long way to ensure a positive outcome when it happens. The thing stinks. +1 Mag Extensions are the only change to it. Personally have no experience with them but it is to each his own and have heard nothing but good about these pistols. lol Damon really? The take down lever is actually easy to use once get use to it. We indicate sponsored content as such. i used to own a keltec p11. At first glance, Japans first semi-automatic pistol design resembles the iconic Have owned and shot most of them. So the recoil is stout. No it is not a light striker fired trigger. LMFAO!!!! The number of ratings is what sold his other books. The double 1911 also has ratings. I would very much like to see your proof/examples. I also have the Kahr. S&W Bodyguard .380 7. Even though its not made anymore, Ive been interested in trying out a Taurus PT638 if I ever ran across one for a reasonable price, anyone have any experience with one? I alone will take up the Masterpiece banner, carry it aloft, plant it on the nearest peak and proclaim, Get thee 6 extra recoil springs and thou shalt have a decent pistol for a year or more, even.. No problems with it at all. The Mary Rosh controversy (where Lott used that pseudonym to answer critics and to post one favorable review of More Guns Less Crime) is discussed. How is this journalisim? Id limit my search to guns rated north of 6.0 on my surveyand Id stay far away from the below-average offerings from Jimenez, Boberg, NAA, MasterPiece, etc. The trigger is long and weighty but smooth. Makes me question the authors intentions in this article. The DAO trigger is long but is consistent and smooth. The gun works. Its fun to shoot really, PS: visited the site again, feeling slightly guilty for harping on the polling validity-. And worst and I do mean worst of all is the Magazine release, which might be the most poorly placed, poorly designed and impossible mag release on any gun ive ever handled. In a fight you wont notice it. I have had my CPX 2 and have shot many hundreds of rounds through it, no jams, no misfires, not really impressed with the rear sites, so I put a laser on it and it is accurate, I like not having a safety on it, but with 9 pounds of trigger pressure you do not need a safety. My other gun is a Beretta PX4. I. He may want to trade the SCCY with the safety in for one of the newer ones without a safety. Stainless Steel receiver, chassis, guide rod, built like a tank. Anything In the Ring of Fire Family. That being said, the LCP II can also be carried IWB or in an ankle holster just as easily as it could be carried in a pocket. There is nothing copyrightable in those designs. As soon as I saw the title I knew the Pico would be on the list. Shocking that an IO Inc product is at the bottom of the barrel. If its good Ill spread the word. Both types are not recommened by the maker for the guns. And they didnt offer to just replace the thing, which is what I would do rather than leaving a dissatisfied customer wholl then post a comment like this on the internet. I have 100s of rounds through both my kahrs with zero fails. How do they perform? Lets find out by comparing it to the original LCP. It therefore must perform when called upon. This gun looks a whole lot like the Ruger LCP and Kel-Tec P-3AT. That gun, the TCP, gets pretty good marks everywhere Ive seen it reviewed, so I wouldnt expect it to show up on a pocket guns to avoid list. These guns shoot any ammo I have fed it. The CPX-2 fails to fully eject one shell per magazine. Its very much a personal decision then, based on fit, function, and how well it shoots. Springfield operator: 5.2 Thus it works as a safety (just like a S&W revolver). Stainless steel through out the gun. You got to be a rookie. How is it possibly at the top of the list? All of this list (for the most part) are price point guns and no, you will not get HK quality for $200, but this list is about as fanboy as anything I have ever seen on here. Oh wow I finally got their awful website to workP3at is #1! The biggest improvement, by far, is the trigger pull. The Pico is one of the best firearms in its class out there period. I think Jimenez and Lorcen companies went bankrupt. The warranty cant be beat. Ive heard more than a handful of DEALERS who rate it a much better overall weapon than the KelTec which it resembles, and the machining does appear superior in my estimation. What utter nonsense! No thanks. All run like sewing machines. And then the gall to refer to Jeremy who by the way did not bother to report that the upgraded model fixed all the issues with the first run. But despite those advantages, .380 pocket pistols have also been plagued by a number of downsides. There are two primary uses for the LCP II: concealed carry and/or as a back-up pistol. Great sights, ability to change out to night sights and on and on. Ive been fortunate enough to be able to shoot a big variety of different .380s. The best one, so far, that I have shot with the least amount of re http://www.waltherarms.com/wp-content/uploads/ppk-beauty1.jpg Yet one more advantage for the LCP II is the fact that the slide locks back on the final round fired to signal you are empty. The Pico is top shelf. The .380 ACP is not a powerhouse, but its often enough. Ive no complaints. Thats along what I was thinking. Getting the trigger on the safety notch is something you should never goof around with. The .380 pistol which has the least recoil? Above, a Ruger, below a Browning 1911380 Without even looking at their spec sheets, we can guess that Cant say LCP is much better than any of these above, but it has been reliable. Did you ever lubricate the gun, or did you just load it and shoot it? Mine works, has worked, continues to work, and has never not gone bang. Her gun was unloaded while the thugs were not. Maybe so few were sold they didnt make the list. It has the stopping power necessary to approach a threat, while still maintaining the size required for comfortable everyday carry. SCCY CPX-2 is a very good gun. Except for a derringer but that is because the prior owner dry fired it which you are to never do. Sig without question is the "Caddilac". I experienced none of that with my p3at but it was entertaining to read. I have two of the Picos. No sights (Stick it up their nose and pull the trigger). It smacks you hand, mostly due to the 2 finger grip. They sent me a replacement gun that wouldnt chamber the 1st round. If you have to rely on Counter Clerks for advice on firearms tells me quite a bit. He rated it 2.5 stars out of 5 and wrote, I dont hate it. Still, thats pretty tepid, and our readers rate it well below average. That could happen with any gun someone didnt ,maintain and hadnt tested out at the range. My son made sure I carried a SW9VE for daily use. My hands are simply too large for the tiny Ruger. But, it doesnt like to be dirty. Take the guns in this article, for example: did people downvote them because they were too uncomfortable to fire? As a long, and I do mean long time P3AT owner, you must be one of those anti Keltec trolls that hated them from the start. Those small NAA revolvers you have to learn how to safely load and unload. Yes, he and others are social media whizkids, but not firearm experts. But do not tell me the Kahr is a better gun. Both the front and rear sights are black which can make it difficult to see them if you are aiming against a dark background. Whatever-everything else pops inand their FB page is odd too. How many times do you change magazines in a self defense situation? Was definitely surprised that certain other brands didnt make the list. The Picos have a huge fan base. We saw your review and write up. I dont expect any pocket gun to be pleasant to shoot, but I ditched my Hellcat after experiencing multiple failures to eject two types of ammo. . With pocket pistols you get so much more in terms of everything for every little uptick in size you go. Nonetheless, the fact that they are difficult to shoot can be a major problem for training and self-defense purposes. And just recently bought my Third Pico. Pointing a gun will not stop a thug. Worst complaint is the trigger, but a lot of dry fires with snap caps and you condition yourself to the long reset. Horrible, awful trigger. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Just like Fords. Ruger LCP II 3. I still have the same problem. Just keep shooting your pistol. 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